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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 16, 2015 20:19:50 GMT -8
To Washington RW Bobby Ryan SNP 90 7.25M UFA 2022 (30) - OTT pays 1M for 2 seasons To Ottawa RW Marcus Johansson PLY 87 $5,750,000 UFA 2020 (25)- C Alex DeBrincat SNP 80 $925,000 RFA 2019 (19) 2018 1st 2018 3rd Alright so again, Ottawa is trying to rebuild, and with this move they lose 3 OA's and get 5 years younger, lose cap even with the included payment, add a top prospect, and a first round pick(no longer protected) with a booster. Caps accept luongod |
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Post by luongod on Jul 16, 2015 21:22:04 GMT -8
acept
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Post by yup on Jul 17, 2015 12:05:54 GMT -8
Reject still. Shouldn't be trading superstar players away from non gm teams
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Post by coiser on Jul 17, 2015 16:31:36 GMT -8
I also think that moving a big name away from non GM teams is not ideal. But this is a nice package that would be great for a rebuilding team.
I'll accept.
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Post by snaggletooth on Jul 17, 2015 19:25:49 GMT -8
I still think you guys are fucked. Am I the only one who thinks that's too much for Ryan? He's a piece of crap. I don't know what else to say... I just think this deal smells like pooh. But hey... just my opinion.
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 17, 2015 20:14:08 GMT -8
dont be like that snaggle lol. maybe he is only been playing bad because he has not been on a productive team? haha. I have to overpay to do a non GM deal. unless someone is willing to give more for the same package lol
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Post by snaggletooth on Jul 18, 2015 7:34:18 GMT -8
dont be like that snaggle lol. maybe he is only been playing bad because he has not been on a productive team? haha. I have to overpay to do a non GM deal. unless someone is willing to give more for the same package lol I guess you have a point there. But nobody else agrees with my view. lol. I'll accept it |
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 18, 2015 19:08:02 GMT -8
So mod deal/final or are we gonna wait for one more?
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 6:26:45 GMT -8
I have to agree with Flyers, not only should we probably not be trading the big name players off of GM-less teams, but Sharks even said to me himself that he wouldn't trade franchise players from GM-less teams like this when I attempted to get Crosby from the Pens, yet he'll allow Ryan to be moved from the Sens?!  Nah, I don't think so. If we're not doing that, then it's for everybody not just on a case by case basis. Rejected/Finalized. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 7:21:23 GMT -8
I have to agree with Flyers, not only should we probably not be trading the big name players off of GM-less teams, but Sharks even said to me himself that he wouldn't trade franchise players from GM-less teams like this when I attempted to get Crosby from the Pens, yet he'll allow Ryan to be moved from the Sens?! Nah, I don't think so. If we're not doing that, then it's for everybody not just on a case by case basis. Rejected/Finalized. That's only two rejects pal. Also, are you seriously calling Bobby Ryan a franchise player? A player like Crosby or Ovi are franchise players but Ryan? Not really. I accept. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 8:34:37 GMT -8
I have to agree with Flyers, not only should we probably not be trading the big name players off of GM-less teams, but Sharks even said to me himself that he wouldn't trade franchise players from GM-less teams like this when I attempted to get Crosby from the Pens, yet he'll allow Ryan to be moved from the Sens?! Nah, I don't think so. If we're not doing that, then it's for everybody not just on a case by case basis. Rejected/Finalized. That's only two rejects pal. Also, are you seriously calling Bobby Ryan a franchise player? A player like Crosby or Ovi are franchise players but Ryan? Not really. I accept. It depends on how you view it, but Ryan is still a star player, no matter how good or bad he sims. He's also one of the team's best players, so in reality, it's between Ryan & Zibanejad as to who the "franchise player" is right now; they have 2. Plus, this is a staff deal that only requires 2 votes either way for it to be final. We also can't be holding a double standard on these non-GM deals. If we're not going to move one guy from another team, we can't just arbitrarily decide that we can for another. |
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 19, 2015 9:22:36 GMT -8
If your going on the 2 votes either way, then this is accepted already before you rejected kruze. Also there is a huge difference between Crosby and Ryan. It's like treating a 90 and and 84 the same, that's how much better Crosby is.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 9:44:32 GMT -8
If your going on the 2 votes either way, then this is accepted already before you rejected kruze. Also there is a huge difference between Crosby and Ryan. It's like treating a 90 and and 84 the same, that's how much better Crosby is. You're also strapping a GM-less team with paying cap for 2 seasons which is smarmy backroom bullshit too. This deal reeks of stacking and favoritism. If it's going to be difficult for others like myself that offered better than this for Crosby, without making the other team eat cap, this should be no different. Plus, Avs effectively rejected this deal at first as well This deal should be Rejected/Finalized. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 10:41:46 GMT -8
If your going on the 2 votes either way, then this is accepted already before you rejected kruze. Also there is a huge difference between Crosby and Ryan. It's like treating a 90 and and 84 the same, that's how much better Crosby is. You're also strapping a GM-less team with paying cap for 2 seasons which is smarmy backroom bullshit too. This deal reeks of stacking and favoritism. If it's going to be difficult for others like myself that offered better than this for Crosby, without making the other team eat cap, this should be no different. Plus, Avs effectively rejected this deal at first as well This deal should be Rejected/Finalized. Avs changed his mind to accepting the trade though and he never said that he rejects all he did was point out his own opinion. Stop bringing your own butt-hurt problems into other people's trades. |
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jul 19, 2015 11:17:49 GMT -8
LOL he said butt-hurt LOL
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Post by yup on Jul 19, 2015 11:24:15 GMT -8
You're also strapping a GM-less team with paying cap for 2 seasons which is smarmy backroom bullshit too. This deal reeks of stacking and favoritism. If it's going to be difficult for others like myself that offered better than this for Crosby, without making the other team eat cap, this should be no different. Plus, Avs effectively rejected this deal at first as well This deal should be Rejected/Finalized. Avs changed his mind to accepting the trade though and he never said that he rejects all he did was point out his own opinion. Stop bringing your own butt-hurt problems into other people's trades. You need to stop talking you're making yourself look like a fool. Kruze is right in this situation. If a new gm comes in and sees a team with Ryan they're going to take that team over all those players they're getting in this deal. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 12:07:03 GMT -8
You're also strapping a GM-less team with paying cap for 2 seasons which is smarmy backroom bullshit too. This deal reeks of stacking and favoritism. If it's going to be difficult for others like myself that offered better than this for Crosby, without making the other team eat cap, this should be no different. Plus, Avs effectively rejected this deal at first as well This deal should be Rejected/Finalized. Avs changed his mind to accepting the trade though and he never said that he rejects all he did was point out his own opinion. Stop bringing your own butt-hurt problems into other people's trades. It's also staff's job to protect the integrity of the league especially when administrators don't. I'm not "butt-hur", all I'm doing is using my situation as an example of why this deal shouldn't be accepted. We can't have a double standard based on who's offering these deals. |
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 19, 2015 12:44:39 GMT -8
You can only say its a double standard if you think Ryan and Crosby are the same standard. They aren't. You shouldent even compare them. It's like not trading an 84 and comparing him to a 90 and calling it the same standard
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 13:49:54 GMT -8
You can only say its a double standard if you think Ryan and Crosby are the same standard. They aren't. You shouldent even compare them. It's like not trading an 84 and comparing him to a 90 and calling it the same standard It is the same apparently, since a) trying to get him for your team and b) fighting so hard to get him on your team. If Ryan sucks, why are you trading for him? Oh, and where did this 84 for 90 comparison business come from anyways? |
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 19, 2015 13:53:05 GMT -8
I didn't say he sucks. I said you can't compare him to Crosby. Comparing a 90 to a 96 is like comparing a 84 to a 90.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2015 14:04:36 GMT -8
I didn't say he sucks. I said you can't compare him to Crosby. Comparing a 90 to a 96 is like comparing a 84 to a 90. I disagree since we've seen 84s+ outscore 90s through a season. Anyone over 90 is an elite/franchise player. Period. You're not trading elite for elite here. End of story as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by Washington Capitals GM on Jul 19, 2015 14:24:04 GMT -8
Johansson is only 3 OA lower dude. So if an 84 can out score a 90, then a 87 should have an even better chance of doing that. Your reasoning makes no sense. And 87 is not elite?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 14:24:14 GMT -8
So a Ryan Kesler is a franchise player?
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Nah, I don't think so. If we're not doing that, then it's for everybody not just on a case by case basis.
