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Post by luongod on Dec 17, 2013 12:47:00 GMT -8
to C-Alex Burmistrov(80) PLY 1M UFA 15/16 D-Matt Irwin(84) TWD 1M UFA 15/16 D-David Savard(75) OFD 0.75M UFA 17/18 D-Mirco Mueller(76) TWD 0.95M RFA 16/17 1st 2015 SJS 2nd 2015 CBJ to D - (84-TWD) - Dougie Hamilton - $1.494M (RFA 15/16) C - (80-GRN) - Chris Kelly - $3.00M (UFA 16/17) - NTC C Alexander Khokhlachev 57 PLY - .925M RFA 2015 BRUINS PAY 1.5M FOR KELLY 1 year accepted, Bruins will PM pr about Kelly's NTC Irwin and Burmistrov have agreed to extend in Boston Bruins aware Irwin is injured
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Post by Former-Boston Bruins GM on Dec 17, 2013 12:50:14 GMT -8
Accept, pm'ed pr.
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Post by belfour on Dec 17, 2013 15:06:11 GMT -8
This is so close, but I'm going to have to reject. Too much going to Boston, but its almost there.
Hamilton is good, yes. And he is young. However, Boston is getting a good and proven defecemen back in Irwin. Plus he is getting a good young prospect in Burmistrov. Then hes also getting a rookie in Mueller, and then a first and a second? Too much
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 17, 2013 22:56:06 GMT -8
Yah it does seem kind of over kill guys... Plus Burmitrov's not all that good, and despite being young, he's about equal to Kelly in terms of simming. I don't see much need for Mueller or the picks in there at all.
Rejected.
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Post by luongod on Dec 17, 2013 23:02:28 GMT -8
Uh this is simple. If you want a player like Hamilton you have to overpay. Khoklechev is worth a 1st and 2nd for me.
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Post by snaggletooth on Dec 17, 2013 23:05:24 GMT -8
With Irwin being injured and having to re-sign both he and Burmistrov, (they'll probably want big cheddar) It's not bad. Also sharks 1st will be 30th overall because he always wins the cup.
Hamilton is a sexy beast, and should go for something big.
I think i'll accept this ugly bastard.
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Post by Former-Boston Bruins GM on Dec 17, 2013 23:11:36 GMT -8
I don't get what's wrong... We both agreed to the trade. Its even depending on what you're going for. Irwin and Burmistrov both agreed to extensions.
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Post by rk17 on Dec 18, 2013 19:31:39 GMT -8
What's happened to mods brains? Once one of their trades is rejected, they just reject outta spite. Even deal! Accept
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 0:03:06 GMT -8
Kelly waives
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Post by Houdini on Dec 19, 2013 15:54:50 GMT -8
This one is close. If the 2nd = the 1.5M in cap paid, this becomes Savard/Mueller/1st for Khokhlachev which is too much, even if Sharks is getting the best player in this deal (Dougie). I'll have to reject, sorry boys.
That's final.
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Post by luongod on Dec 19, 2013 18:11:44 GMT -8
This one is close. If the 2nd = the 1.5M in cap paid, this becomes Savard/Mueller/1st for Khokhlachev which is too much, even if Sharks is getting the best player in this deal (Dougie). I'll have to reject, sorry boys. That's final. So that means Irwin = Dougie? No, its Mueller, Irwin = Dougie but fuck it, can't even do a simple deal like this
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Post by sensrule19 on Dec 19, 2013 19:11:24 GMT -8
Honestly, works for me. Fuck it
Accept Final
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Post by goblue209 on Dec 19, 2013 19:18:05 GMT -8
Already rejected/final
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Post by Former-Boston Bruins GM on Dec 19, 2013 19:44:07 GMT -8
I'm still unaware why this trade is no good... Hamilton is my top prospect and is NHL ready already. Why would overpaying be so bad in this case? Of course I'm not gonna let someone like him go for what you guys see "even". I demand lots in return for him and sharks is willing to give it up... I just don't really understand this lol.
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Post by Houdini on Dec 19, 2013 19:51:17 GMT -8
So that means Irwin = Dougie? No, its Mueller, Irwin = Dougie but fuck it, can't even do a simple deal like this Oh c'mon...that is ridiculous to complain over it. You wanted a mod to finalize this and I thought it wasn't fair. It's my job to come to a conclusion on trades. Just because both sides making the trade agree it's fair doesn't make it so. Because then we wouldn't need mods to look at trades and should just allow all trades that happen. Make some adjustments and try again. Why get pissed over something like this?
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Post by Former-Boston Bruins GM on Dec 19, 2013 20:46:56 GMT -8
I personally think we should do exactly that, let all trades happen. Assuming the trade isn't complete bs lopsided, it should go through, otherwise what is the point of trades? I use them to strengthen my team...
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Post by luongod on Dec 20, 2013 0:42:39 GMT -8
So that means Irwin = Dougie? No, its Mueller, Irwin = Dougie but fuck it, can't even do a simple deal like this Oh c'mon...that is ridiculous to complain over it. You wanted a mod to finalize this and I thought it wasn't fair. It's my job to come to a conclusion on trades. Just because both sides making the trade agree it's fair doesn't make it so. Because then we wouldn't need mods to look at trades and should just allow all trades that happen. Make some adjustments and try again. Why get pissed over something like this? my apologies if it seemed i was mad at you. I do not agree with your assesment of the trade, but thats that, mods are needed however, we need to remember that the mods are mainly here to prevent cheating. If both sides are fine with the deal, even if it is a bit lopsided, and they are both aware of it, the trade usually goes through. and i am mostly irritated with the length it took to get this trade finalized, its been up for 2 days
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Post by Houdini on Dec 20, 2013 1:28:45 GMT -8
I guess we need to have a look at our trading rules and what should be accepted/rejected.
S'all good.
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